Thoughts about the future of flash
Lots of question going around about what I plan on doing now that browsers have dropped support for flash. Guess I should answer them, the best I can.
Only browsers have dropped support for flash, which means you can still download the flashes themselves and play them offline on a standalone flash player. There are several, although I'm not sure which is best or which will stay around. But it'll be possible, at least.
There's also this flash emulator thing that Newgrounds have been working on. I haven't looked into it myself, so I don't know how it works or if it is any good.
As for those who wonder if I'm going to port it to HTLM5 or something; I don't know. I'm not coding the flashes myself, so I can't really say for sure. If HTML5 can even support the stuff that actionscript does or whatnot.
Some have suggested to make the flashes downloadable .exe files, which I suppose is an option? I don't know. I haven't really discussed it with Fallow.
I'm going to continue with my project til it is finished, however long that might take.
After that, I'm not sure. I guess I gotta move away from flash, but to what, I have no idea. Don't really wanna bother thinking about it until I get there. I can only work with and draw in flash, so if I switch programs, there's going to be a huge dip in quality, for sure. On the other hand, I'm not very happy with flash when it comes to making movie-like projects, since there's always a tiny bit of desync going on, which will get very noticable on a linear timeline that is longer than a minute or so. So ye, I dunno. We'll see.
I might have some better answers later on. But I just really wanna work on my project.
Which is what I'm going to continue to do soon, after I go get me something to eat. I'm gonna stream it as I usually do these days. Be there if you wanna hang out or see how the progress is going.
Also, I'm going to take the days between christmas and new year's to work on this:
This episode have been put together by some of the people usually involved in Rock n' Raz, so it'll be a bit different!
It's also the longest episode so far, just a bit past 3 minutes of actual content. (Intro & Yo! finding sections not included, that is.)
I am, however, positive that it'll be received well. I don't really get a lot of response on these from the majority of my fanbase, but they're pretty popular amongst my friends and some other people within the community.
Well, whatever you think of Rock n' Raz, I consider the holiday end of December as a sort of a vacation. Once it's january, I'll get right back to the Zu & Jo part.
Only browsers have dropped support for flash, which means you can still download the flashes themselves and play them offline on a standalone flash player. There are several, although I'm not sure which is best or which will stay around. But it'll be possible, at least.
There's also this flash emulator thing that Newgrounds have been working on. I haven't looked into it myself, so I don't know how it works or if it is any good.
As for those who wonder if I'm going to port it to HTLM5 or something; I don't know. I'm not coding the flashes myself, so I can't really say for sure. If HTML5 can even support the stuff that actionscript does or whatnot.
Some have suggested to make the flashes downloadable .exe files, which I suppose is an option? I don't know. I haven't really discussed it with Fallow.
I'm going to continue with my project til it is finished, however long that might take.
After that, I'm not sure. I guess I gotta move away from flash, but to what, I have no idea. Don't really wanna bother thinking about it until I get there. I can only work with and draw in flash, so if I switch programs, there's going to be a huge dip in quality, for sure. On the other hand, I'm not very happy with flash when it comes to making movie-like projects, since there's always a tiny bit of desync going on, which will get very noticable on a linear timeline that is longer than a minute or so. So ye, I dunno. We'll see.
I might have some better answers later on. But I just really wanna work on my project.
Which is what I'm going to continue to do soon, after I go get me something to eat. I'm gonna stream it as I usually do these days. Be there if you wanna hang out or see how the progress is going.
Also, I'm going to take the days between christmas and new year's to work on this:
This episode have been put together by some of the people usually involved in Rock n' Raz, so it'll be a bit different!
It's also the longest episode so far, just a bit past 3 minutes of actual content. (Intro & Yo! finding sections not included, that is.)
I am, however, positive that it'll be received well. I don't really get a lot of response on these from the majority of my fanbase, but they're pretty popular amongst my friends and some other people within the community.
Well, whatever you think of Rock n' Raz, I consider the holiday end of December as a sort of a vacation. Once it's january, I'll get right back to the Zu & Jo part.
Posted 14th of December 2020 - 07:17 by
Ivel29th of December 2020 - 02:28
I'm doing game creation, some of which is with Adobe Flash and ActionScript, so what I'm about to say is through experience.
If you personally have Adobe Flash Player, which you do as a part of Adobe Flash Professional or Animate, you're able to run the things you make through it and, by clicking on File and Create Projector, make an Exe file of it. You're also able to do the same with the things you've made, if you don't have the source, but do have the SWF. So you're able to keep doing things with Adobe Flash for as short/long as you wish to and make all of what's old/new continue to run for people.
If you personally have Adobe Flash Player, which you do as a part of Adobe Flash Professional or Animate, you're able to run the things you make through it and, by clicking on File and Create Projector, make an Exe file of it. You're also able to do the same with the things you've made, if you don't have the source, but do have the SWF. So you're able to keep doing things with Adobe Flash for as short/long as you wish to and make all of what's old/new continue to run for people.
Rock Candy20th of December 2020 - 20:02
C3no wrote:
Rock Candy wrote:
decade fan wrote:
There's this saying that "the medium that porn supports will be the successful one." I'm sure whatever happens, EVEN IF flash shits out on us, that there will be an artist's alternative available within a few years.
For now though, I might suggest you proceed into image or comic format. I'm no content creator, but you draw well and there is a lot you can do with animated gifs.
For now though, I might suggest you proceed into image or comic format. I'm no content creator, but you draw well and there is a lot you can do with animated gifs.
As for comics, I'm not good at that format.
But again, it's no more a browser display, only a standalone application. In someway it's maybe better to continue with flash and let people use a standalone flash player on their machine...
If you want to continue on browser directly, I know only 2 methods: HTML5 (technicaly it's possible to achieve the same stuff, but I don't think it's as easy...), or maybe Unity... (Many game are made with Unity3D, even 2D games/plateformers/... and some H-game go this way... And unity allow to export the game as a "WebGL"-game playable in our browsers...)
Making something with Unity is probably way different from Flash, but it can maybe let you try something new...
C3no20th of December 2020 - 14:58
Rock Candy wrote:
decade fan wrote:
There's this saying that "the medium that porn supports will be the successful one." I'm sure whatever happens, EVEN IF flash shits out on us, that there will be an artist's alternative available within a few years.
For now though, I might suggest you proceed into image or comic format. I'm no content creator, but you draw well and there is a lot you can do with animated gifs.
For now though, I might suggest you proceed into image or comic format. I'm no content creator, but you draw well and there is a lot you can do with animated gifs.
As for comics, I'm not good at that format.
But again, it's no more a browser display, only a standalone application. In someway it's maybe better to continue with flash and let people use a standalone flash player on their machine...
If you want to continue on browser directly, I know only 2 methods: HTML5 (technicaly it's possible to achieve the same stuff, but I don't think it's as easy...), or maybe Unity... (Many game are made with Unity3D, even 2D games/plateformers/... and some H-game go this way... And unity allow to export the game as a "WebGL"-game playable in our browsers...)
Making something with Unity is probably way different from Flash, but it can maybe let you try something new...
Rock Candy20th of December 2020 - 08:01
ButtBus wrote:
I don't get it.
Is there a new Rock'n'Raz out, or why is there a picture of it embedded without a link to it?
Is there a new Rock'n'Raz out, or why is there a picture of it embedded without a link to it?
Rock Candy20th of December 2020 - 08:01
decade fan wrote:
There's this saying that "the medium that porn supports will be the successful one." I'm sure whatever happens, EVEN IF flash shits out on us, that there will be an artist's alternative available within a few years.
For now though, I might suggest you proceed into image or comic format. I'm no content creator, but you draw well and there is a lot you can do with animated gifs.
For now though, I might suggest you proceed into image or comic format. I'm no content creator, but you draw well and there is a lot you can do with animated gifs.
As for comics, I'm not good at that format.
decade fan20th of December 2020 - 02:18
There's this saying that "the medium that porn supports will be the successful one." I'm sure whatever happens, EVEN IF flash shits out on us, that there will be an artist's alternative available within a few years.
For now though, I might suggest you proceed into image or comic format. I'm no content creator, but you draw well and there is a lot you can do with animated gifs.
For now though, I might suggest you proceed into image or comic format. I'm no content creator, but you draw well and there is a lot you can do with animated gifs.
ButtBus19th of December 2020 - 09:37
I don't get it.
Is there a new Rock'n'Raz out, or why is there a picture of it embedded without a link to it?
Is there a new Rock'n'Raz out, or why is there a picture of it embedded without a link to it?
Blaine19th of December 2020 - 02:22
I do know of some creators that switched from flash to unity webgl so there's an option. although from what I've read it's more difficult to work with.
LittleCopperRobot16th of December 2020 - 18:13
Just a thought: but you could take a look at Ruffle. It's a flash emulator being written in the Rust programming language so that when flash is officially not supported ruffle will still be able to run them. (Possibly with better performance.)
The team that's working on it is really enthusiastic about preserving flash and having a way to continue to view flash on the web. It will run on Desktop similar to the stand alone flash player, or in browser. It is also available as a browser extension. It's not done yet, but it's getting close and I know personally that it can run a few of your older animations completely!
I think you may find more functionality and broader horizons if you switched to something other than flash, so by all means look for other stuff! But I just wanted to mention it because I know that Ruffle is how I will run your flash content and others when flash is gone. Check it out: https://ruffle.rs
There's even a web demo so you can try some .SWF files and see if they work yet. (Headlights and Christmas Ham can runs great for example!)
Something else is that I've heard of some NewGrounds artists drawing their art in flash and then exporting the frames to use in other engines, just because they prefer flash as a drawing tool. I think Among Us was actually made like that. I learned that from the NewGrounds podcast and I'm not super informed on the subject, but I thought it worth mentioning.
I've commented before to express my gratitude for your and FallowWing's hard work under a different name and I'm always excited to see what's coming out next. As always thanks so much RC!
The team that's working on it is really enthusiastic about preserving flash and having a way to continue to view flash on the web. It will run on Desktop similar to the stand alone flash player, or in browser. It is also available as a browser extension. It's not done yet, but it's getting close and I know personally that it can run a few of your older animations completely!
I think you may find more functionality and broader horizons if you switched to something other than flash, so by all means look for other stuff! But I just wanted to mention it because I know that Ruffle is how I will run your flash content and others when flash is gone. Check it out: https://ruffle.rs
There's even a web demo so you can try some .SWF files and see if they work yet. (Headlights and Christmas Ham can runs great for example!)
Something else is that I've heard of some NewGrounds artists drawing their art in flash and then exporting the frames to use in other engines, just because they prefer flash as a drawing tool. I think Among Us was actually made like that. I learned that from the NewGrounds podcast and I'm not super informed on the subject, but I thought it worth mentioning.
I've commented before to express my gratitude for your and FallowWing's hard work under a different name and I'm always excited to see what's coming out next. As always thanks so much RC!
HairySpetsnaz14th of December 2020 - 14:41
I've been using the NEWGROUNDS stand alone player. Works pretty well and easily accessed.
Some people have zip files of adobe flash player posted in the main flash thread of the Legendofkrystal forum flash section.
Some people have zip files of adobe flash player posted in the main flash thread of the Legendofkrystal forum flash section.