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2020-06-06 04:46:27
isn't an argument nor compelling in any fashion. Especially when you draw arbitrary lines as your reasoning.
"Yes, many ideas and concepts were scrapped or added during the idea phase. I gotta take into consideration what is plausible to make and what I want to make VS what people want to see. Not sure why Sixten is a bigger deal than any other ideas that didn't make it. At least I considered him, isn't that a good thing?
With how the project is shaping up to be, there isn't a spot for Sixten in it. I think I've said this before at some point, but I guess it's hard to accept as someone viewing the project from the outside.
And I think it's a pretty valid point to not have the guy and the girl on the same screen. Zu and Sixten had separate screens in the RR flash, this has both characters on display. Most people aren't bi and would either be put off by the female or the male character. It's simply a much better idea to have two females.
You keep talking as if Sixten requests are very common and that I'm mean to them; but that is not the case. I rarely get any, and if I do, I just tell them that no, Sixten will not appear in this project."
I never outright said you were mean to anyone, just that there's a lot of absurd things surrounding what you said, and again I criticized those things. This is all fine and all your decision, I'm not looking to change said decision, but rather point out the issue I have with what you've stated. I can't make this any clearer. Yet somehow you keep saying I'm saying these things that I'm not.
"I can, however I feel yours isn't honest, or at least uninformed or ignorant.
The version I released is practically finished and ready to ship. It's completely playable and works as intended for the most part. Some things always slip through the cracks, and I've got actual playtesters playing it as well. For patrons that want to play it early, before small bugfixes and changes are made for the final ship, in exchange for posting any problems they might encounter, sounds like a good deal to me.
I do not rely on patrons to playtest."
I did not say you relied on patrons to do your work for you just that you ARE getting them to do it, I did not say it wasn't almost done, I did not say it isn't playable. I DID also say that you were charging people to functionally playtest your game and have them bugtest it as well. Whether you see it as a good deal or not doesn't change anything. Whether you FEEL like I'm saying things I'm not isn't an argument either. I said something and reiterated, you can respond to that without claiming I'm saying all this other shit too. I never made any of those statements you have an issue with. You just have feelings that are for some reason driving you to make things up. You can very clearly re-read what I said below.
"Well that's not very nice. You showed me that you still have a pretty skewed view of the situation. You might have some points, but other aren't as valid as you think they might be. "
I was going to apologize for saying this but then you strawmanned me yet again in the next line.
"In the end, you're upset about a male character not appearing in a porn flash, where it should be pretty clear that the creator (me) is not that interested in gay content. If you think that me going after what I'm interested in is scummy, then I suppose most people would fall under the same category. "
See this is what made me say above ^. You disregard everything I've stated of me having an issue with how dishonest what you said is. Just because you meant something else or things conveniently change does not detract from the criticism. Why? Because I'm criticizing what you said, much of which I backed with actual evidence and citations. Your only takeway seems to be disregarding most of this and going "U BAD CUZ TRY TO FORCE ME TO DO GAY." I couldn't give less of a shit if Sixten was destroyed and never appeared in a flash every again. Why? Because my issue is with what you said. It stemmed from wanting something specific sure, but that isn't why I'm criticizing you currently at this moment. I originally criticized you because I found the whole situation absurd. Then you strawmanned the shit out of me (and did it again in this response yet again), which further cemented my view about how scummy you come off, as you can't just reply without making things up that I never said.
Hey maybe you have the best of intentions, but I would suggest to read what people say opposed to speculating and trying to formulate weird shit that isn't said. Like this statement.
I've responded to what you've said and provided citations and reasons for doing so. Instead of being civil initially you immediately went to jumping to conclusions. For example I'm not even upset. I was genuinely disappointed, then it turned into morbid fascination and now it's just mostly confusion. I spend more time posting on leddit, other forums, other discords and 4chan in a morning, than in all these-